By Kevin Armstrong
German-made RWD Model Y with a BYD battery shows an impressive charging curve
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Tesla’s latest variant of the Model Y, recently produced in Gigafactory Berlin, showcases a promising charging curve, marking a notable improvement for Tesla's fleet. A selection of customers has already had the chance to experience this new model, replete with a cutting-edge BYD battery, indicating an upgrade in charging capacity that could prove a game-changer for the electric vehicle market.
The entry-level versions of Model Y, equipped with rear-wheel drive and sporting a lesser battery capacity than the Long Range and Performance versions, were delivered earlier this week. However, a slight hitch in the form of registration paperwork issues caused a temporary pause in deliveries. A handful of German customers, who could register their Model Y RWD, wasted no time examining the charging capabilities of the new BYD battery.
Early Hiccups in Model Y Deliveries from Gigafactory Berlin
Gigafactory Berlin has started production of the Model Y on an impressive scale, with several customers announcing their receipt of vehicle identification numbers, a clear indication of their Tesla's German origin. However, the delivery process encountered unexpected delays, reportedly due to discrepancies between the type of approval and the engine Tesla has used in these vehicles, necessitating a swift solution.
Earlier this week, Tesla's inventory suggested a substantial stock of German-produced Model Y RWD vehicles "ready for immediate delivery." As of Thursday, though, only China-made models were available. Despite the same exterior appearance and listed tech specs, the German and China-made versions differ significantly under the hood.
BYD Battery Replaces Tesla's In-House Batteries in German Model Y
German-produced Model Y uses a structural battery pack initially manufactured by BYD, contrasting with the in-house batteries used in Gigafactory Texas. Interestingly, the basic Model Y variant from China comes with a battery from CATL, akin to the BYD battery used for the German version, as both use robust LFP chemistry.
Tesla Mag spotted one of the first, if not the only customer, to receive and register a German Model Y RWD before the delivery halt was TFF forum member 'ingolfernst.' The data he gathered from the first charging test showed that the BYD battery began charging at a little above 20%, reaching an impressive output of 172 kW, and consistently maintained this up to a 50% charge.
In comparison, the CATL battery, while starting at the same level, experienced a significant drop, managing only around 110 kW at the 50% mark. The BYD battery’s charging curve descended after the halfway point, converging with the CATL curve at around 90% but never dipping below it.
These preliminary tests point to a promising future for the BYD battery within Tesla’s German Model Y. Once the type approval issue is sorted, further testing will likely bring us a more comprehensive understanding of the BYD battery's true potential. With continuous improvements and cutting-edge advancements, Tesla once again proves its commitment to transforming the electric vehicle landscape.
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By Kevin Armstrong
Uber now has access to Tesla vehicle data that allows it to limit trips within range
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In a monumental move towards the future of ridesharing, Tesla and Uber have unveiled a new feature — a range-based trip planner. This integration allows Tesla drivers to connect their vehicles to the Uber app and schedule rides based on the remaining battery charge of their electric vehicles. This innovation is set to redefine the experience of both drivers and passengers in the ridesharing space.
Bridging Tesla and Uber: The New Age of Ridesharing
First observed by Tesla enthusiast and former Uber driver Sofiaan, this range-based planner enables Tesla owners to accept rides in the Uber app based on their vehicle's current charge. The feature is activated only when users permit it, and once enabled, it assigns rides that can be comfortably completed with the existing battery level, leaving a small buffer to reach a Supercharger.
While introducing this feature marks an exciting leap in integrating electric vehicles into the ridesharing world, it has raised some eyebrows over privacy and data concerns. The new feature requires drivers to allow Uber access to their vehicle's data through the Tesla API. While it may cause some apprehension, this innovation is a significant aid for drivers who may be unsure about their Tesla's range or those experiencing range anxiety.
The Driver's Perspective: The Challenge of Balancing Charge and Availability
Driving for Uber or Lyft with an EV can be challenging. Rideshare drivers need to balance the need to recharge their vehicles with the necessity to remain available for passenger pick-ups. This new range-based planner alleviates some of this stress by intelligently allocating rides based on the remaining battery life. Such a feature could be particularly advantageous for those operating in areas with limited fast-charging infrastructure.
This range-based planner promises to improve the rideshare experience for Tesla drivers. With it, drivers will only be offered rides they can complete with their existing charge. This eliminates the dilemma of declining rides due to insufficient battery life, which could result in a penalty from Uber.
Ridesharing and the Future of Autonomous Vehicles
As we look toward the future, this development prompts larger questions about the ridesharing landscape and the advent of autonomous vehicles. Companies like Tesla, Uber, and Lyft, along with emerging players such as Waymo, Cruise, and Ford's new autonomy division, continue to innovate and compete. With the ongoing shifts towards electric and autonomous vehicles, these new technologies and collaborations will play an essential role in shaping the future of transportation.
This initiative by Tesla and Uber is a vital step toward integrating electric vehicles into the mainstream. As we anticipate the further transformation of ridesharing services, one thing remains clear — the ride toward green transportation is accelerating, and Tesla and Uber are at the forefront of this revolution.
By Kevin Armstrong
Tesla is introducing the ability to track your tire mileage in update 2023.20
Preparations are underway for Tesla's next software update, version 2023.20. Although currently in testing, this update has been drawing attention since it was first noticed last week. Considering Tesla's 2023.12 update brought numerous new features, it appears this next may be smaller. However, we now have our first look at some of the features included in Tesla's 2023.20 update.
Ability to Track Tire Mileage
A noteworthy improvement under the upcoming update pertains to tire service tracking. Post-update, vehicle owners can track how many miles have been driven since their last tire service. This feature can prove valuable for monitoring mileage since your last tire rotation, changing to new tires, or switching between season-specific tires.
You or your service center will need to manually reset the counter each time your tires are serviced. You can view the mileage traveled or reset your counter by navigating to Controls > Service.
The official release notes state:
Go to Controls > Service to see how many miles it's been since your last tire service.
When you get your tires rotated, replaced, or swapped, tap 'Reset' to reset the counter.
Furthering Global Reach: Text Size Adjustment
Another feature gaining more ground is text size adjustment. While 'Text Size' was introduced in the 2023.12 update, the ability to adjust the size of the text in the vehicle's UI was limited to select languages. The feature has now been extended to all languages supported by Tesla. This expansion affirms Tesla's commitment to accessibility for its global user base, ensuring a seamless experience across different regions and languages.
While the Text Size feature in update 2023.12 only applied to the Model 3 and Model Y, it's not clear whether update 2023.20 also introduces the feature to the Model S and Model X. Based on Tesla's feature release history, this feature will likely apply to at least the redesigned Model S and Model X in the futre, but it's not immediately clear whether that is happening with this update.
The release notes for 2023.20 state:
Large text size feature is now available in all supported languages.
To update your settings, go to Controls > Display > Text Size.
Release Date
Although Tesla does not provide release dates for upcoming software updates, we may see update 2023.20 start rolling out in the next week or two. This timing can change if Tesla uncovers issues that need to be addressed before a public release.
2023.12 Update: A Look Back
As we anticipate the rollout of 2023.20, it's worth reflecting on the last major update - 2023.12.1. This update significantly enriched Tesla's features, particularly for Model 3 and Model Y. One standout was steering wheel customization. A long press on the left scroll button revealed a host of adjustable settings and functions.
Moreover, introducing the new search function facilitated more accessible access to controls and settings, along with points of interest that included photos and reviews. The ability to adjust wipers using the steering wheel scroll wheel emerged as a valuable, undocumented feature.
Perhaps one of the most user-friendly updates was the option of Standard or Large text sizes for the touchscreen display, which now applies to all languages under the 2023.20 update.
Other improvements included optional gear chimes for Model 3/Y, the transition of Tesla's Spotify player to a web-based format, enhanced phone call controls, and vision-based speed assist feature expansion. Tesla also broadened Zoom availability to more countries, added writing support for legacy Model S and Model X in China, and continued to make user interface enhancements.
While this is an early look at the upcoming features update 2023.20, it provides a glimpse into Tesla's continuing pursuit of improving user experience and convenience. There may be additional features in this update that are not listed here since not all Tesla features are available for every vehicle or region.
As we wait for the public release, it's evident that Tesla continues to push boundaries in its software development, setting high standards in the electric vehicle market.
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FAQs
Does Tesla use BYD blade battery? ›
Tesla has started using BYD blade batteries for the Model Y electric crossovers produced at the Berlin gigafactory, resulting in a significant increase in charging speeds.
Does Tesla work with BYD? ›While Tesla has never really confirmed if BYD was a battery supplier, previous filings from the electric vehicle maker have indicated that some plans between the two companies are likely in the works.
Where do Tesla Model Y batteries come from? ›Tesla has started to purchase battery cells from BYD, and they're being used in Model Y crossovers produced in Germany. There's now a Tesla Model Y being produced at Gigafactory Berlin that's fitted with battery cells from BYD.
Does Model Y use LFP battery? ›According to sources close to the company, the Tesla Gigafactory in Berlin is assembling the first units of a Model Y entry-level type with rear-wheel drive and LFP battery.
What is the advantage of BYD Blade Battery? ›BYD CTP (Cell to Pack) technology makes the difference, with the Blade Battery increasing space utilization by 50%. This improves energy density and allows more batteries in a compact space, with a longer driving range. The 'honeycomb-like aluminum' design of the Blade Battery also provides greater rigidity and safety.
What is the lifespan of BYD Blade Battery? ›BYD claims the pack has a life span of 3,000+ charge cycles, or the equivalent of driving an EV 745,000 miles without needing to replace the battery. For some comparison, a Tesla battery typically needs replacing after about 200,000 to 300,000 miles.
Can you charge a BYD at a Tesla charger? ›The BYD Atto 3 can be charged using all the major charging networks except Tesla Superchargers and some select Tesla destination chargers.
Is BYD available in the US? ›All our bus models in service throughout the United States purchased with federal funds comply with Buy America 49 CFR Part 661 – Buy America, and 49 CFR Part 663.13, incorporating nearly 75% U.S. content. BYD spends tens of millions of dollars each year on components made by American vendors across the nation.
What is the difference between BYD and Tesla? ›While Tesla's cars largely still represent luxury vehicles in China, BYD's brand offers a range of affordable gas and electric options. Still, it doesn't quite have the luster as a brand that Tesla has, being that the U.S. EV brand is considered on the cutting edge of cars from a consumer standpoint.
Are the Model Y batteries made in USA? ›After a year of selling the vehicle as an “off-the-menu” product, Tesla has finally opened orders on the cheaper Model Y AWD with 4680 cells made in Gigafactory Texas. Tesla started producing and selling the vehicle almost a year ago to the day, but it was only gradually offered to customers.
What battery does a 2023 Tesla Model Y take? ›
Tesla has expanded its Model Y lineup by adding the Dual Motor AWD variant, powered by the innovative 4680 battery cells. Priced at $49,990 before incentives, this model offers 279 miles of range, a top speed of 135 mph, and a 0-60 mph time of 5.0 seconds.
Does 2023 Tesla Model Y have 4680 battery? ›The battery capacity of the Tesla Model Y AWD (4680) is estimated in some reports at 67.6 kilowatt-hours (kWh), while the Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD and Performance versions have probably around 81 kWh.
What is the real range of Model Y LFP? ›| Acceleration 0 - 100 km/h | 6.9 sec |
|---|---|
| Top Speed | 217 km/h |
| Electric Range * | 345 km |
At current estimated prices per kWh ($137), a new 75-82kWh battery pack for the Model Y would cost between $10,000 and $12,000. With miscellaneous parts and a labor charge of around $500 for a 3-hour replacement, a more accurate low estimate for a Model Y battery pack replacement is about $11,000-$13,000.
What are the weaknesses of BYD? ›(1) Technological disadvantage. The car battery chosen by BYD (lithium iron phosphate) has technical problems such as low energy density, low conductivity, low capacitance, and a low yield.
What is the disadvantage of BYD Blade battery? ›Safety controversies. BYD claims that "EVs equipped with the Blade Battery would be far less susceptible to catching fire – even when they are severely damaged." However, In July 2021, a BYD Han EV with Blade batteries was crash-tested in China (car-to-car crash test) versus an Arcfox Alpha-S.
Who is BYD battery competitor? ›BYD's alternatives and competitors. See how BYD compares to similar products. BYD's top competitors include Aptera, Orange EV, and ElevenEs.
Does Toyota use BYD battery? ›Toyota launches bZ3, its first full electric sedan, driven by BYD powertrain. Toyota has finally launched the new bZ3 electric sedan in China. The new model is driven by BYD's battery and motor powertrain setup. This is the second electric car by the brand after bZ4X SUV was launched in 2022.
Is BYD bigger than Tesla? ›Of the 209,467 personal vehicles, BYD sold 104,364 BEVs and 105,103 plug-in hybrid vehicles (PHEVs). While Tesla leads BYD in BEV sales globally, the latter is No. 1 in China. In fact, BYD is now China's largest automaker, period.
What is the longest lifespan EV battery? ›
According to current industry expectations, EV batteries are projected to last between 100,000 and 200,000 miles, or about 15 to 20 years. However, even when EV batteries do age, their large initial capacity combined with minor losses in battery capacity means the aging is nearly imperceptible to drivers.
Can BYD use Tesla supercharger? ›Tesla operates more than 1,600 Supercharging stations in China plus over 700 destination charging points. In mainland China, around 37 models will be able to use Tesla's chargers, including vehicles from Aiways, BMW, Porsche, BYD, Dongfeng, Ford, Geely, Zeekr, Polestar, Nio, Volvo, XPeng and more.
Is BYD charging free? ›Image provided. Chinese car maker BYD launched its electric vehicle range in the Australian and New Zealand market in 2022 with the all-electric Atto 3 SUV. By the end of the year, the BYD Atto 3 was the third best-selling EVs in both countries.
How much does it cost to charge a BYD? ›For the BYD Atto 3 the cost of charging in Australia is: Home charging off-peak electricity rate: $8.35. Home charging average electricity rate: $14.36. Chargefox fast chargers: $20.04.
Where is BYD located in USA? ›BYD North America's headquarters is located in Downtown Los Angeles, with a 550,000-square-foot bus manufacturing facility in Lancaster, California. BYD started with six U.S. employees in 2013 and has since expanded to over 1,000, including its unionized workforce of 750 in Lancaster, California.
Why is there no BYD in USA? ›BYD currently does not build cars in the U.S., so that's the likely reason why the company doesn't sell its cars in America. That said, BYD is successfully competing against Tesla in the Chinese market, so the Chinese automaker may want to compete with Tesla in the American market as well.
Who owns BYD USA? ›Wang Chuanfu
Chuanfu is the Chairman, Executive Director and President of BYD. He is the founder of the Shenzhen BYD Battery Company – the original business that was eventually turned into what BYD is today.
Whereas the Long Range version with 2170 cells has an EPA-estimated driving range of 330 miles, the new 4680-cell Model Y has just 269 miles of range.
What battery is in the current Model Y? ›The new Model Y Standard Range utilizes 4680 battery cells that is produces at its Texas plant and has an EPA-estimated range of 279 miles (449 km).
Why is 4680 battery better? ›Tesla's new 4680 battery cell is 5.5 times larger than the 2170 cell it replaces, and is designed to store five times the energy while delivering 16 percent more driving range. Tesla's Elon Musk is looking to crack the code for making better, cheaper batteries as he faces ambitious targets to boost car production.
What is the life expectancy of a Tesla Model Y battery? ›
Tesla CEO Elon Musk also once tweeted that the battery pack in the Model 3 and Model Y was designed to last 1,500 charging cycles, which translates to about 300,000 miles for Standard Range models and about 500,000 miles for Long Range versions.
How many years does a Tesla Model Y battery last? ›warranty coverage. On Twitter, Elon Musk explained that Tesla car batteries should last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles or 1,500 battery charge cycles. That's between 22 and 37 years for the average car driver, who, according to the Department of Transportation (DOT), drives 13,476 miles per year.
Where is 2023 Model Y made? ›Tesla has begun producing in Shanghai a version of the Model Y to be sold in Canada this year, the first time it will ship cars to North America from China, according to a person with direct knowledge of the plan and a production memo seen by Reuters.
Can you charge 4680 to 100%? ›This vehicle does not use LFP batteries, so it would not be recommended to charge this to 100% regularly.
How many 4680 cells in a Model Y? ›The Tesla Model Y's 2170 battery pack contains 4400 individual cells which require four spot welds each. By contrast, the 4680 pack contains just 830 cells with two welds per cell – requiring approximately 940 less welds – leading to the reduced production costs.
How much will a Tesla Y cost in 2023? ›The 2023 Tesla Model Y starts at $47,490. Adding a third seating row to the Long Range trim is another $4,000. And the Full Self-Driving package (available on all three trims) is $15,000. These are manufacturer's suggested retail prices (MSRP) and do not include the $1,390 destination charge/delivery fee.
What is the battery size of 2023 Tesla Model Y long range? › Does 2023 Model Y have wireless charging? ›In addition to storage compartments and cup holders (see Interior Storage), the Model Y interior supports various electronics such as an RFID transmitter that reads key fobs and key cards (see Keys), USB ports, a wireless phone charger, and a 12V power socket.
Which Tesla Model Y has the longest range? ›The Model Y is Tesla's newest car and smaller crossover. It comes in two versions: the Model Y Long Range and the Model Y Performance. The Long Range version of the Model Y can achieve 330 miles of EPA range with the smaller 19-inch Gemini wheels.
What is the range of a long range Model Y in real life? ›Tesla claims that if you stick with the standard 19-inch wheels the Model Y Long Range should be able to cover 351 miles before the battery runs flat.
What is the long range limit for Tesla Model Y? ›
330 miles (EPA est.)
How fast does Tesla Model Y battery degrade? ›In 2020, Tesla released company data stating that the average Tesla battery should still have about 90% battery capacity after 200,000 miles of usage. That works out to around 1% battery degradation per 20,000 miles—surprisingly good!
Can I upgrade my Tesla battery? ›As is the case for all Teslas, you can upgrade your Tesla Model Y's battery pack by purchasing a larger battery to extend the car's range. However, this will likely cost you well over $10,000.
Does Tesla have resale value? ›Compared to regular gas-powered vehicles, Teslas depreciate at a slower rate. One of the main reasons why Teslas retain their value even several years after initial purchase is their mileage range. Most Teslas will last over 500,000 miles, while the average person drives only 13,500 miles yearly.
Which car uses BYD Blade battery? ›The Toyota bZ3 has BYD's revolutionary Blade battery. You can get the bZ3 in two options, a 49.92 kWh pack or a 65.26 kWh pack.
What brand of battery does Tesla use? ›The 18650-type Tesla battery powers the Model S and the Model X. (It was also used for the original Roadster); the 2170-type is used for the Model 3 and Model Y. Both of these batteries are supplied by Panasonic.
Which company battery is used in Tesla? ›What company makes Tesla's batteries? Tesla is currently working with Japanese company Panasonic, its longtime partner, as well as South Korea's LG Energy Solutions, the second largest battery supplier in the world. They supply the EV maker with cells containing nickel and cobalt.
What battery supplier does Tesla use? ›Tesla's primary battery cell supplier, Panasonic, is once again looking to build a new factory in the US after recently announcing its plans to construct one in Kansas.
What size battery does Model Y have? ›The battery capacity of the Tesla Model Y AWD (4680) is estimated in some reports at 67.6 kilowatt-hours (kWh), while the Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD and Performance versions have probably around 81 kWh.
What does it cost to replace batteries in a Tesla? ›Typically, depending on the car, the most basic battery replacement in Tesla costs between $5,000 and $20,000. For the Model S premium sedan, replacing a Tesla battery costs around $13,000-$20,000. Model 3 entry-level sedan and Model X premium SUV battery replacement can cost at least $13,000 and $14,000, respectively.
How much is a Tesla battery cost? ›
Considering this, expect Tesla battery replacements to start between $20,000 and $35,000. However, these prices could increase as they do not include incidental expenses (like other parts) and labor.
What is the lifespan of a Tesla battery? ›warranty coverage. On Twitter, Elon Musk explained that Tesla car batteries should last for 300,000 to 500,000 miles or 1,500 battery charge cycles. That's between 22 and 37 years for the average car driver, who, according to the Department of Transportation (DOT), drives 13,476 miles per year.
Will Model Y be eligible for federal tax credit? ›Starting on Tuesday, a $7,500 tax credit will shrink or disappear for some vehicles, but popular models like the Chevy Bolt, F-150 Lightning and Tesla Model Y are still eligible for the full amount.
Who has the best battery technology? ›Toyota Motor is considered the leader in solid-state battery patents. Currently, EVs with solid-state batteries are not commercially available but are expected to be used in EVs from 2025.
Who does BYD supply batteries to Tesla? ›Relations between Tesla and BYD are positive. In February 2022, rumors surfaced that Tesla had officially placed an order with BYD's battery manufacturing division, FinDreams Battery, for blade batteries for 204,000 vehicles per year.
How do I know if my Tesla battery is LFP? ›Some vehicles are equipped with a Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) Battery. To determine if your vehicle is equipped with an LFP battery, navigate to Controls > Software > Additional Vehicle Information. If your vehicle is equipped with an LFP battery, "High Voltage Battery type: Lithium Iron Phosphate" is listed.
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